智空大师 - 2007-1-31 14:51:00
个人背景:就是属于硬伤比较多的那种ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
非全奖,研一退学,而且是从ee转到地理,读地理信息系统,虽然个人认为这个专业很有前景,国内也真的很ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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有市场,但是谁信啊?要在求学目的上解释的确是很不容易的。如果有谁能够分析一下,觉得可能对很多人都ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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有帮助的。如果glassboy也看到了,也请帮忙可以提提意见,好帮助我二签哪?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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前面那位被拒的自费生没有及时走,vo给我签证收据居然被她拿走了,ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy对她说: this is the receipt for Ms.***, not for youÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yes., thank youÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
我一站到那个台子前,好像连招呼也没有来得及打,他就直入正题ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: you are studying in **** University as master student?(gb好像不想多说废话,直接就落到我转专业ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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和退学的解释上了,看来对我的ds表信息已经很清楚了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yesÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: then what is your research area?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: my current major?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: yes.ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: communication and information system.ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: so you want to go to study Geography in university of ****, why?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
(我还没有找到机会解释那个我要学的方向,就要用一两句话说明退学和转专业的问题,让我措手不及,其实ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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有个很大的问题就是i-20上写的是地理,而不是我要读的地理信息系统, 纯地理在国内外都不算什么赚钱的专ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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业,但是地理信息系统就不一样了...)me: i will specialize in the geographic information system(gis), it is a more prospective field in China than ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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my current study, communication information system (很明显,光这么说两句怎么站得住脚,他肯定不满意我ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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的答案,但是他好像很想在1,2句内就要得到答案....我原来准备得是说不少人是读ee和cs然后转行做地理信ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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息系统的,如果我有了ee的bachalor, 再接受一下gis的硕士教育,那我回来就有很大的竞争力,但是放在没有ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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专业方向的解释基础上,会不会显得很牵强)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: as you are already a master student, why you quit your current study and pursue your master ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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degree there?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me:i think it is the best time for me to study GIS now.(心理已经有点乱了,就光顾着解释,以前准备得那些东西ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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好像都忘了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy:why is the best time?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me:(开始有点语无伦次) the job market is competitive. I think it is .....(我有一种冲动说在这样一个破学校,读ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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一个不喜欢的专业,还是个硕士简直就是浪费青春,不过终究只是说地理信息系统市场需要人才,所以我要去ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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读,才有竞争力,)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: what is your plan after graduation?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: i will pursue a GIS technician professional in China...(居然说不下去了平时很流利的英语话现在简直却显ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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得很蹩脚,我知道这个时候拒签已成定局,从前面的回答根本无法看出我毕业之后回国的市场有多大,后面的ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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资金问题是一个必然结果了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy:不说话,在电脑上打字.ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: who will support your study there?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me:the university offer me most of the fee and the rest of the fee is supported by my parents.(州立学校,学ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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校给了生活费,保险和免州外学费,我补上州内学费,一年5000dollars,这个在上海家庭来说稀疏平常,但是ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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他对此还是很认真)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: from your parents saving?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: are your parents working or retiring?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: they are still workingÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy:what are they doing?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: my mother****, salary 30,000 per year, my father*** salary 40,000 peryear. (上海普通家庭收入)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: how long will you study there?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: 30 months.(其实最后一年都是毕设,不用学费,只要生活费了,所以10,000dollas 够了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: then you should prepare 15,000 dollars. how much will they support you?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: about 10,000 dollars, would you like to see the bank statement and the deposit?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: yes.ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
(他看着那个存款证明,钱都是最近才存的,我知道他肯定会问我那个时间,我看着他,心想快给我盖个章吧ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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,我就走了,不要在钱问题上纠缠了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: why this record ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: since they sold a house last year.(我示意张售房合同和议张买房合同)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: have you any receipt of paying the tax?(果然不信合同,要看发票)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yes,(给他发票) ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: so the house is sold last year, then where is the money during last year till May? have you any ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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certificate? (就是这段时间钞票怎么不放在银行里?)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: since my parents want to buy a new house, they withdrawed it from the account temporily.(本来要用现ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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在的房子和钱去买新房子的,所以为了付学费,房子不买了)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: (指着那个发票上的数额)this is 220,000 yuan, your accountant has 100,000 yuan, then where is ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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the rest of the money?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: there are 4 people owning this house, my mother own the most amount of it, and the rest is divided by ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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the other people.(不知道那些钱是不是太少了点)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: where are your parents living now?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: (我以为他说父母和谁住)what?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: where are they live now, in Shanghai?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yes, they live in shanghai.ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: haveyou the certificate of the house? 房产证ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yes, here you are。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: have your parents have other saving?ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: yes, they are small amount, so i do not bring them.(只有一个2,000dollars的活期存折,就没有带,)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: i am sorry, i do not believe your parents have the amount of the money to support your study ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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there(不知道是不相信那个钱的来源还是觉得家里钱不够)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: any advice?有点难受,随便问了ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
glassboy: bring the certificate.....ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
me: thank you all the way...ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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分析:ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
此申请者被拒签,因为他的出国必要性,归国计划和资产方面都存在很大的问题。今天主要说明出国必要性,归国计划的方面。1. 申请者要读的是地理信息系统,可是I-20上写的却是地理,这是一个很大的问题。应该在签证之前和校方协商,解决好这个问题,最好能让对方学校修改I-20表。因为I-20是官方的录取通知书,签证官只会认可这个官方材料,而不是你的解释。因此,在这个问题上和签证官解释,是不会起什么作用的。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
2. 对自己要学的专业地理信息系统的认识非常贫乏。说明申请者根本就不了解这个专业,当然不可能解释清楚为什么由communication information system转为geographic information system。其实通过网上搜索,可以了解很多地理信息系统的知识。例如,我国经常有洪水灾害,不能很好的预警和处理,从而造成重大灾害。如果有先进的地理信息系统,就可以预先知道洪水即将发生,从而采取有效措施。这个就是地理信息系统的应用之一。当然,还有很多其他方面的应用。这样,就能把抽象的专业变成易于理解的事例。同时,还可以说明,你在communication information system学到的知识可以有效充分的用在geographic information system当中,为今后的学习奠定坚实的基础。因为二者都是属于information system的领域,而申请者认为后者更有前途(具体事例证明),所以,才转专业。这样,就可以把为什么转专业说清楚。类似think it is the best time for me to study GIS now这些完全是无效的回答,没有任何实质内容,只可能导致签证官的进一步追问和反感。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
3. 归国计划。正因为申请者对专业知道的很少,也就提不出什么归国计划。这个问题和出国的必要性是紧密联系在一起的。为什么学这个专业都说不清楚,这个问题肯定还是说不清楚。如果清楚地理信息系统对洪水预警,矿藏勘探,城市规划都有很重要的作用,那么提出一个具体,符合实际的归国计划就不困难了。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
4. 资金。申请者的资金实际上存在问题,不过其实问题并不是非常严重。我认为,如果前面的问题申请者回答的很好的话,很可能签证官在资金问题上就不会难为他。可惜他前面的问题回答的太糟糕了。他的资金如果算起来可以说勉强够。但是,有一个问题申请者没处理好。have your parents have other saving? me: yes, they are small amount。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
这个回答很糟糕。如果你几乎把家里的钱都花光了,签证官会相信你回来吗?这里,应该表现的很自信,说明钱不是什么问题。家里有坚实的经济实力来支持申请者读书。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
5.总之,申请者在签证考察的三个大层面上都有很多问题。出国必要性和归国计划问题最多,至于资金,说够也够,说不够还真是有点不够,这种情况,如果申请者前面问题回答的好,或者表现的再自信一点,应该是可以被签证官认可的。ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
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(待续)ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{
北北 - 2007-2-2 16:11:00
楼主分析的很透彻啊ÏJc.]¯bbs.eduglobal.com¯¤yÔÆ{