转自南京大学bbs.ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
一直以来,很多人问我的背景和经验,我都承诺等申请结束就写出来,今天闲一点,我履ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
行诺言吧,希望下面的文字对以后的申请者有些帮助。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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发信人: eurhythmic (Taekwondo 一片空白 从头开始, 信区: AdvancedEduÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
标 题: 我的申请结果和一点经验ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
发信站: 水木社区 (Thu Mar 22 22:45:03 2007), 站内ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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刚才排版不好,删掉重发,希望这次能好点。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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到现在我的申请应该已经告一段落了,考虑到Economics的申请案例不是很多,在这里我将ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
时间表和offerÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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细节提供出来,希望对后来人起到参考作用。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Offers:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
1. Yale University, ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 2.23 email通知, admission with full fellowship,约27000/year,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
连续提供四年,后两年有TA或RA义务;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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2. Northwestern University(Kellogg School of Management), ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Mangerial Economics and Strategy,2.28 email通知,admission with full fÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
ellowship, 27000/year, 连续提供四年,后三年有TA或RA义务(10 hours/week),3.17拒ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
之;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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3. UCLA, ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 3.03 email通知,admission with full fellowship, 25000 /year,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
连续提供四年,后三年有TA或RA义务;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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4. Princeton University, ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 3.06 email通知,admission with full fellowship, 27000/yeÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
ar, 连续提供四年,后两年有TA或RA义务(2 hours/week);ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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5. Stanford University, ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 3.13 email通知, admission with full fellowship, 32000/yÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
ear, 连续提供四年,后三年有TA或RA义务;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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6. New York University(Stern School of Business), ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics and Strategy, 3.14 email通知,admission with full fellowÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
ship, 24000/year,连续提供四年,3.17拒之;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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7. New York University(Department of Economcis), ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 3.09 电话突击面试,当即告知对方自己有更好选择,推荐另一同ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
学(这个姑且算一个offer吧,因为估计若未主动放弃应该会拿到);ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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8. 中央公务员(人民银行总行),3.16电话通知,当日婉拒;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Admissions:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
1. UCSD, ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics, 2.28 email通知, admission, 3.10拒之;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
2. University of Pennsylvania,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Economics,3.06 email通知,admission,fellowship is pending,当日拒之;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Rejections:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
1. UC Berkeley, Economics, 3.02 email通知;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
2. Columbia University,Economics,3.06 email通知;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
3. M.I.T., Economics, 3.09 email通知;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
4. University of Minnesota,Economics,3.09 email通知;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
5. CalTech,Ph.D Program in Social Sciences, 3.22 email通知;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Withdraw before decision:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
1. University of Toronto,Economics;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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注:上述offer或rejection的发出时间应该都是第一轮的,此时若还没有消息则很有可能ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
是在wait list上。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Still waiting:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
1. Harvard University, Economics;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
2. University of Chicago, Economics;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
估计被这两家默拒了,呵呵ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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个人背景:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
本科南京大学数学系,后保研至清华经管学院,现硕士三年级;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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本科Major GPA:94.3/100, Ranking: 1/115;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
本科Overall GPA:91.6/100, Ranking: 1/115;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
硕士GPA:91.8/100, Ranking:这个就不知道了,反正不是Top 1, 呵呵ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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GRE: 590 800 4.5 TOEFL: 640 4.5ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Research: One paper on FEMES(Far Eastern Meeting of Econometric Society,2ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
006);ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Recommendation Letters:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
one from my advisor, three from Canada, one from the U.S.. 都是老师写好密封ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
再寄走,自己不知道信的内容;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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Awards:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
数学建模竞赛全国一等奖(本科);ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
杨振宁奖学金(南大);ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
若干其他奖项;ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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一些经验和感想:ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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数学与经济学的复合背景还是比较有利于经济学申请的,很多学校网上申请时都要求ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
填表说明修过的数学课和经济学课,比如Princeton,Harvard and M.I.T., etc。另外,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
很多人容易混淆经济系与商学院。实际上在北美,经济系通常设在文理研究生院(GraduaÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
te School of Arts and Sciences),而商学院属于职业学院(Professional Schools)ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
,与医学院、法学院等并立。商学院中一般也有经济系和金融系,但其研究方向更偏于应ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
用,而文理学院中的经济系阵容一般比较强大,研究方向偏理论一些,范围也更宽广。值ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
得一提的是,Princeton素来以精干著称,她没有职业学院,但其经济系同时涵盖了经济和ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
金融两大方向(在其他学校金融往往设在商学院),而且都是顶级水平,这样会让学生的ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
选择余地更大,这也是我喜欢Princeton的一个原因。商学院全奖名额一般很少,每个系通ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
常也就三、四个(而Top University的经济系一般每年有10-20个名额,有的更多,像ColÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
umbia今年就招了30个之多),而申请者往往上千,所以在录取前,对方态度都很冷淡,但ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
录取后则十分热情,许以各种条件极力劝说你去,呵呵。个人感觉要做学问的话还是去经ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
济系好,想赚钱的话就去商学院吧。当然,顶级的商学院在其专业领域内的研究实力还是ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
相当强的,比如Kellogg的Game Theory,IO,Strategy以及Stern的宏观和金融,等等。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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下面谈谈我曾关注过的几个经济系的情况,当然有些也是道听途说,仅供参考。最强ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
的Top 5一般是U Chicago,Harvard,Princeton,M.I.T.,Stanford,另外Yale,UC BerkeleyÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
,Northwestern,U Penn也差不多在同一档次上。U Chicago实力很强,大名鼎鼎的ChicagoÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
学派相信很多人都听说过。不过U Chicago好像是有名的tough,有时近一半的人过不了考ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
试,呵呵,而且老师不太爱管学生,所以适合少数天才。Stanford和Harvard的老师对学生ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
管的也不太多。Princeton和Yale的老师与学生的互动则比较好,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Kellogg和Stern的老师对学生也比较上心,毕竟商学院招的学生少。M.I.T.方向全、实力ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
强,不过好像很少直接从大陆招学生。M.I.T.和Harvard很近,两个学校常在一起开课和SÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
eminar,所以如果能去其中之一的话相当于享受两个名校的资源,呵呵。U Penn一贯对中ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
国学生比较友好,每年都会给几个名额,不知道今年怎么手很紧,我听到的都是admissioÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
n and fellowship pending,最近才有同学转成offer。NYU和Columbia实力在伯仲之间,ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
都在11-12名左右,其中NYU上升势头强劲,尤其是其毕业生的placement相当的好,毕竟离ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
华尔街太近了。UCLA和UCSD实力也相近,大概13-14名,UCLA综合排名比UCSD更前一些。UÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
Minnesota强调数理,传统上宏观不错,不过近年有下滑趋势。CalTech很有特色,没有专ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
门的经济学项目,导致其专业排名很低。它的经济学放在Social Sciences Program中,在ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
某些很新的交叉方向上很厉害,比如Experimental Economics and Behavioral Game TheÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
ory 的领军人物Colin F. Camerer就在CalTech,另外它在Social Networks方面的研究也ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
很活跃,不过去年它在该领域的一个牛人Matthew Jackson去了Stanford。U Toronto和U ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
British Columbia 的经济学算是Canada最好的,不过我主要想去美国,所以就申了U TorÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
onto,毕竟它的综合实力在Canada最强。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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申请的时候还要注意各个学校的特定要求,比如Yale, Stanford, UC Berkeley只接受ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
18个月的TOEFL有效期,U Chicago要求TOEFL三个单项都在60以上,诸如此类,当然具体执ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
行时可能不会那么严格。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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很多学校的网页更新很慢,比如U Penn和UCLA都已经录了我了,网页上还是显示材料ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
未到齐。如果实在不放心就直接发邮件或干脆打电话吧。不过我不太赞成直接找教授套磁ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
,除非和教授很熟。不同于很多工科院系或是生物之类,只要某个实验室的头儿首肯基本ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
上就被录了,经济系的录取是在录取委员会中决定的,所以单个教授的套磁效果不会很大ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
。我的感受是静候佳音为妙,直接给教授发信可能会有负作用。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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我觉得自己的运气一直还是满好的,每一步都能得到贵人相助。我的导师从一开始就ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
支持我出国深造,指导我写论文,给了我很多机会。经管学院的好几位特聘教授耐心地和ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
我一起讨论我的研究。。。还有本科录我去南京大学的潘老师,本科系主任,苏老师以及ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
其他教过我的老师们,给了我很多鼓励和帮助。。。还有朝夕相处的同学们,最后还有生ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
我养我的父母亲,没有他们,我定是难以如愿的。ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
后面的路还长,大恩不言谢,惟有继续前进!ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í
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最后祝大家心想事成,都能拿到满意的offer!ÆÝÎ'tIMbbs.eduglobal.comõ±Âr²ú¥ Í