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标题: 一个全奖被拒的签经分析——签证系列专题(1)

一个全奖被拒的签经分析——签证系列专题(1)

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Me:Good morning!áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo:Good morning!(头也不抬,看材料)Why do you want to go to US?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Me: I will study psychology at *** U for my Bachelor’s Degree. You see, I want to be a psychologist, and concentrate in psychology counseling.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Vo:I asked WHY!!(知道是personal reason)áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:VO的意思是为什么不在中国而是去美国读本科。可以先说自己的专业,但要马上引出为什么要去美国学而不在中国学。áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: Because US has more advanced education in this field. You know, the two best psychology undergraduate programs, Beijing normal U and shanghai east normal U have only several decades' history in teaching psychology. Fudan U only began its psychology undergraduate program in 2002. So the education in the States will help me to lay a solid foundation for my future career back in shanghai. (我的铺垫啊)I want to have the best education and I am confident that I made the right decision.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:申请者在这里陈述的原因还是比较合理的。不过条理稍微差一点。应该先说自己想学心理学,但是中国目前这个领域的本科教育起点很低(正如申请者列举的原因)。然后再说美国在这个领域的教育非常发达先进,所以去美国读本科。
Vo: (敲电脑中不理睬我) your plan after graduation?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: I will go back to shanghai and work as an assistant psychology counselor for a year. After I got my certification in counseling .I will open my own counseling business. áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:这些目标恐怕太不现实了!学个本科就当顾问?还开公司?有这个专业实力和经济实力吗?与自己的实际能力不符。And I want to find out my position in the society and carefully consider whether a further education will be needed. I don't intend to take grad schools in the U.S. Instead, I expect to change my study environment if I make up my mind to further my studies, I might study in this area in Japan, since I will focus on Asian psychology. And Japan is the best place to go. (American undergraduate focus more on general theories.) áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: certificate?&^%$#áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:这段问题很严重。自己说I don't intend to take grad schools in the U.S.这不是不打自招吗?谁问你读不读研究生了?即使VO问这个问题,也不应该这样回答。应该说“现在不能给你一个确定的答复,因为四年是很长的时间,我无法对四年以后的事情做出明确决定。如果到时候我认为我的水平还不够,我会考虑这个问题”。这样的回答比较合理。后面就更荒唐了,把日本提出来了。怎么日本又成最理想的地方了?那干脆现在就去日本好了,为什么还要去美国?表明自己不会滞留美国要有充分的理由,不是随便说个其他国家就表明自己不会留在美国。以上的叙述根本不合理,思路混乱。Me: I need a year’s hands-on experience to take the test.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Vo: (没有看我,但是我一直看着他) gaokao??áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: oh, I am going to take it .that’s why I get my visa appointment this early, so I can set aside enough time and energy preparing for it.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Gaokao is a summary of 12 years' study here in China; I really do not want to miss this one-time life experience. Though I probably will get my BA in the US.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:既然决定去美国留学,可以直接说自己没有参加高考,因为目标是去美国读大学。尽管自己有能力在中国读本科,但不是最佳的选择。而申请者说赶紧签证,然后好准备高考。这听上去很不符合逻辑。既然准备出国了,还集中精力准备高考干什么?高考的目的就是在中国上大学,不在中国上大学,就没有理由把高考看的那么重。诸如“Gaokao is a summary of 12 years' study here in China; I really do not want to miss this one-time life experience.”这类话,外国人是理解不了的。中国人的思维的最大特点就是“中庸”。明明是矛盾的两个事物,中国人却把他们联系在一起。根本就不需要高考,还同时把高考说的对自己特别重要。这种思维美国人不能接受。Vo: Show me your grade.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me:(晕,他没有听明白我说的话啊)I am taking it next month.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Vo: have you study aborad?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: no , I haven’táB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: have you been aborad before?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: No , but I will visit singapore, because I won *&^%$, and was awarded a study trip to Singapore this July.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Vo: oh , *&^%$ 叫了隔壁的vo过来一起看电脑。屏幕里面有n条记录áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: anything wrong?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
%^$&*&áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
分析:这N条记录是怎么回事?我怀疑他可能同时拿者几个学校的I-20表。从上下文不能做出明确判断。要是真的这样,单凭这一点,VO就有足够的理由拒签。Me:看到递出来的收据 is this my receipt?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: Yes ,your receipt. I can not believe you. You should take gaokao!áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me:        (认为他不相信我有能力完成学业) it’s easy for me get into Fudan U.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: excellent!áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: 瞪大眼睛不明白中áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
VO: you can study at fudan U and apply after 4 years!áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: what? 脱口而出,因为出离愤怒了áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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Vo: 给我白纸,盖章.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: Do you want to see my TOEFL and SAT scores,school report?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: no. áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Me: so can you give me any suggestions. Do you mean you denied me because I did not take gaokao?áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
Vo: I do not believe you. You do not have strong ties here. 开始生气 you can go.áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
总之,通过上面的分析可以知道,申请者的回国计划不符合实际,思路混乱,在对高考的问题上自相矛盾,因此签证官根本就不相信他,认为他和中国没有牢固的“约束力”,并做出拒签的决定。áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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他没有问任何ties 的问题,但我有在几个问题里面提到会上海工作的问题。áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
(分析:tie 不是一个具体问题,是通过VO对你的了解体现出来的!提到回来工作并不表示肯定有strong tie.)áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
没有看我的任何额外材料。但是似乎认真看了我的I-20.我认为回答的问题都是蛮积极的。而且也给了一点我的background.不会是我说的太快了……áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
最后编辑智空大师 最后编辑于 2007-01-29 09:59:24
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血淋淋的教训啊。áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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他说you should take gaokao这句话我觉得是意思是“你被拒了,快去准备高考吧”,楼主误解了,还激怒了他,一败到底,教训啊áB—“P27?®‡bbs.eduglobal.comáӄ†Ë¼Ö³
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